Map Feedback - Insolence, v196

Insolence, v196

Bug report by Okom1

Date: 20 Jan, 2024

Feedback notes: -

Priority 1 = Must fix:
Exploits, gameplay stalling issues and non-standard functionality.

Priority 2 = Should fix:
Recommendations, major visual issues and balance issues.

Priority 3 = Suggestion:
Inconsistencies, minor visual issues and optimization tips.

Positional values are described in the order: X, Y, Z.

Object references are described like so: Object name.

0. Layout

Unintended hiding spots present on the map:

Position: 366, 496, 802
Position: 365, 511, 838
Position: -395, 219, 871
Position: -365, -572, 845
Position: -365, -470, 816
Position: -365, -485, 795
Position: 0, -219, 748

Prevent access to the listed hiding spots.

Movement hitches can be experienced around some positions:

216, 87, 667 Rocks on the ground
103, -120, 637 Rocks on the ground
7, -7, 690 Bridge lip
-7, 7, 690 Bridge lip
-112, 221, 617 Wreckage

Smooth out movement in these areas by either removing collision from the objects that cause the movement hitches or by adding blockers or other collision objects around the area.

1. Spawning

Some Respawn Points are positioned unexpectedly:

Spawn Point [Respawn] 38 Too high off the ground

Adjust the positioning of the listed Respawn Points so they are positioned correctly.

Some Spawn Points are positioned in a way where the player will not have enough time to react to something happening shortly after spawning on them:

Spawn Point [Respawn] 22 Player runs into a wall
Spawn Point [Respawn] 27 Player runs into a wall
Spawn Point [Respawn] 36 Player gets stuck on geometry
Spawn Point [Respawn] 48 Player falls off a ledge
Spawn Point [Respawn] 52 Player runs into a wall
Spawn Point [Respawn] 53 Player runs into a wall
Spawn Point [Respawn] 62 Player gets stuck on geometry
Spawn Point [Respawn] 107 Player runs into a wall
Spawn Point [Respawn] 109 Player runs into a wall

Reposition the listed Spawn Points so that they don't lead to actions that a player spawning on them can't react to quickly enough.

2. Sandbox

Some sandbox spawners have non-standard Item Selection Properties:

Weapon Rack, Weapon Rack 14 & Weapon Rack 38 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Cobra, Tactical Rifle, Bravo)
Weapon Rack 1, Weapon Rack 15, Weapon Rack 32, Weapon Rack 39 & Weapon Rack 42 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Cobra, Tactical Rifle, Alpha)
Weapon Rack 13, Weapon Rack 23, Weapon Rack 34 & Weapon Rack 41 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Eagle, Tactical Rifle, Alpha)
Weapon Rack 16, Weapon Rack 24 & Weapon Rack 40 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Eagle, Tactical Rifle, Bravo)
Weapon Rack 28 & Weapon Rack 44 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Cobra, Launcher, Bravo)
Weapon Rack 29 & Weapon Rack 46 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Eagle, Launcher, Bravo)
Weapon Rack 36 & Weapon Rack 47 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Eagle, Pistol, Charlie)
Weapon Rack 18 & Weapon Rack 48 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Eagle, Pistol, Alpha)
Weapon Rack 12 & Weapon Rack 49 Symmetrical Channel value is the same as another spawner of the same Class on the same side (Cobra, Pistol, Alpha)
Weapon Rack 36 - Weapon Rack 37 Symmetrical Channel set to "None" or is different from the other team's counterpart (Pistol, Bravo-None)
Weapon Rack 39 - Weapon Rack 40 Symmetrical Channel set to "None" or is different from the other team's counterpart (Tactical Rifle, Alpha-Bravo)

Adjust the Item Selection properties to be inline with set standards.

The Class/Tier should be some other value than "Any" as it doesn't have a functional "343 Default" Spawn Property mapping. The standard is to use the same Class that the Weapon in the Static Item Selection belongs to. The Weapon in the Static Selection can be different from the Class it belongs to if it is intended for that weapon to spawn only in Ranked modes, which force the Static Selection to "Enabled". In a situation where the Static Selection is "Enabled", the Weapon class is determined by the static Weapon set in the spawner.
The Static Selection on Weapon Racks should be "Disabled" in all modes with the exception of BTB where "Enabled" is allowed. Grenade Dispensers, Equipment Dispensers, Vehicle Pads and Classic Vehicle Spawns should be set to "Enabled" in all modes. For spawners only included in Ranked modes, "Enabled" is allowed, but has no difference to "Disabled" as Ranked modes force all spawner Static Selections to "Enabled" via gamemode rule. Fiesta modes will force the Static Selection to "Disabled".
The Symmetrical Channel should be set to Alpha for each sandbox spawner that relies on a Class-based item pool and has a symmetrical counterpart for it. If the same Class of item shows up more than once per side, a different Symmetrical Channel should be used for each of them. For items with Static Selection "Enabled", the Symmetrical Channel should be set to "None" to provide more randomness in Fiesta modes.

Some sandbox spawners have non-standard Spawn Properties:

Vehicle Pad 4 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"
Vehicle Pad 6 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"
Weapon Pad 1 Spawn Properties set to "Custom" and Spawn Properties other than Spawn Time deviate from the 343 Default standard
Weapon Pad 2 Spawn Properties set to "Custom" and Spawn Properties other than Spawn Time deviate from the 343 Default standard
Weapon Rack 3 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"
Weapon Rack 12 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"
Weapon Rack 19 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"
Weapon Rack 26 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"
Weapon Rack 27 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"
Weapon Rack 29 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"
Weapon Rack 41 Spawn Properties set to "Custom"

Adjust the Spawn Properties to be inline with set standards.

The Spawn Properties should be "343 Default" as it is the standard used in built-in maps and it allows for the spawner logic to change depending on the gamemode.

A value of "Custom" is allowed if it is used only to be able to change the Spawn Time of a spawner holding a Power Weapon or Power Equipment while replicating the rest of the properties that the Spawn Properties "343 Default" would result in.

A value of "Custom" is allowed in Ranked-only sandbox spawners where the property is used to only adjust certain Spawn Logic, Ammo Multiplier/Charge Multiplier or Spawn Time values of the item while replicating the rest of the Spawn Properties that would occur with the value of "343 Default".

A value of "Custom" is allowed on Equipment Pods and Weapon Pods if they are setup as BTB Ordnance Pods.

A high Initial Spawn Delay on an item may confuse players as the item only shows up for the first time a while into the match. The highest suggested Initial Spawn Delay is "30.00".

Some sandbox spawners have non-standard Advanced Properties:

Equipment Dispenser Selective Channel set to something other than "None"
Equipment Dispenser 5 Selective Channel set to something other than "None"
Equipment Dispenser 9 Selective Channel set to something other than "None"
Equipment Dispenser 10 Selective Channel set to something other than "None"

Selective Channel set to something other than "None". Seed Sequence Key doesn't match the standard Key used for the spawner type.

Adjust the Advanced Properties to be inline with set standards.

The Selective Channel should be set to "None" on sandbox spawners other than Weapon Pods and Equipment Pods.
The Seed Sequence Key should be set according to the sandbox spawner type:

Equipment Dispenser, Classic Equipment Spawn = EquipmentPadPlacementKey
? = GeneralPlacementKey
Grenade Dispenser, Classic Grenade Spawn = GrenadePadPlacementKey
Equipment Pod, Weapon Pod = OrdnancePodPlacementKey
Power Equipment Pad = PowerUpPadPlacementKet
Weapon Pad = PowerWeaponPadPlacementKey
? = VehicleDropPlacementKey
Vehicle Pad, Classic Vehicle Spawn = VehiclePadPlacementKey
Weapon Rack, Classic Weapon Spawn = WeaponRackPlacementKey
Weapon Trunk = WeaponTrunkPlacementKey

The Selective Channel on Ordnance Pods should be set according to the following standards:

Equipment Pod, Eagle, Default = Juliet
Equipment Pod, Eagle, Event = Foxtrot
Equipment Pod, Cobra, Default = India
Equipment Pod, Cobra, Event = Gamma
Equipment Pod, Middle = Hotel
Equipment Pod, Last Spartan Standing = Delta
Weapon Pod, Eagle, Default = Juliet
Weapon Pod, Cobra, Default = India
Weapon Pod, Middle, Default = Hotel

Some sandbox spawners are too high in elevation:

Weapon Rack 32

Fix the elevation on the listed objects so they are either correctly on the ground or at a standard height on the wall.

Weapon Racks should be 5.15 units up from the ground level.

Sandbox spawners positioned at a correct height

Some sandbox spawners are too low in elevation:

Vehicle Pad
Vehicle Pad 3
Vehicle Pad 4
Vehicle Pad 5
Vehicle Pad 6
Vehicle Pad 7
Vehicle Pad 8
Vehicle Pad 10
Grenade Dispenser 4
Grenade Dispenser 5
Equipment Dispenser 6
Equipment Dispenser 7
Equipment Dispenser 9
Equipment Dispenser 10
Equipment Dispenser 11
Equipment Dispenser 12
Equipment Dispenser 13
Equipment Dispenser 14
Equipment Dispenser 15
Power Equipment Pad 1
Power Equipment Pad 2
Weapon Pad 1
Weapon Pad 2
Weapon Pad 5
Weapon Pad 6
Weapon Rack 3
Weapon Rack 12
Weapon Rack 13
Weapon Rack 14
Weapon Rack 15
Weapon Rack 16
Weapon Rack 17
Weapon Rack 18
Weapon Rack 19
Weapon Rack 27
Weapon Rack 28
Weapon Rack 29
Weapon Rack 30
Weapon Rack 31
Weapon Rack 34
Weapon Rack 36
Weapon Rack 37
Weapon Rack 41
Weapon Rack 42
Weapon Rack 48
Weapon Rack 49
Weapon Pod 1
Weapon Pod 2
Weapon Pod 4
Weapon Pod 5
Weapon Pod 6
Weapon Pod 7
Weapon Pod 8
Weapon Pod 10
Weapon Pod 11
Weapon Pod 12
Weapon Pod 13
Weapon Pod 14
Weapon Pod 15
Weapon Pod 17
Weapon Pod 20
Weapon Pod 21
Weapon Pod 23
Weapon Pod 24
Weapon Pod 25
Weapon Pod 27
Weapon Pod 28
Weapon Pod 29
Weapon Pod 30
Weapon Pod 32
Weapon Pod 34
Weapon Pod 35
Weapon Pod 36
Weapon Pod 39
Weapon Pod 40
Weapon Pod 41
Weapon Pod 42

Fix the elevation on the listed objects so they are either correctly on the ground or at a standard height on the wall.

Weapon Racks should be 5.15 units up from the ground level.

Some Weapon Racks are merged too deep in geometry:

Weapon Rack
Weapon Rack 1
Weapon Rack 12
Weapon Rack 13
Weapon Rack 14
Weapon Rack 15
Weapon Rack 16
Weapon Rack 17
Weapon Rack 18
Weapon Rack 19
Weapon Rack 23
Weapon Rack 24
Weapon Rack 26
Weapon Rack 27
Weapon Rack 28
Weapon Rack 29
Weapon Rack 30
Weapon Rack 31
Weapon Rack 32
Weapon Rack 33
Weapon Rack 34
Weapon Rack 36
Weapon Rack 37
Weapon Rack 38
Weapon Rack 39
Weapon Rack 40
Weapon Rack 43
Weapon Rack 48
Weapon Rack 49

Fix the depth on the listed Weapon Racks so that the back plate of the Weapon Rack doesn't get merged in geometry when a Weapon is taken from it.

Weapon Racks should be just far enough out of the wall so the metal back plate inside the object does not intersect the wall.

Close-up shot of a Weapon Rack merged too deep in the wall

Close-up shot of a Weapon Rack at a correct depth in the wall

Some sandbox spawners may have the wrong Class/Tier set on them:

Weapon Rack 15 Tactical Rifle
Weapon Rack 41 Tactical Rifle
Weapon Rack 42 Tactical Rifle

Check the Class/Tier on the listed sandbox spawners.

Class, Base

Assault Rifle = Bandit Evo, M392 Bandit, Pulse Carbine
Launcher = Hydra, Ravager
Pistol = Disruptor, Mangler, MK50 Sidekick, Plasma Pistol
SMG = Needler, Sentinel Beam
Shotgun = CQS48 Bulldog, Heatwave
Sniper Rifle = Shock Rifle, Stalker Rifle
Tactical Rifle = BR75, VK78 Commando

Class, Power

Launcher = Cindershot, M41 SPNKr
Melee = Diminisher of Hope, Elite Bloodblade, Energy Sword, Gravity Hammer
Sniper Rifle = S7 Sniper, Skewer

Tier, Base

Drop Wall, Grappleshot, Repair Field, Repulsor, Shroud Screen, Threat Seeker, Threat Sensor, Thruster

Tier, Power

Active Camouflage, Overshield, Quantum Translocator

Some Fusion Coils are spawning too often:

Fusion Coil Shock 30 seconds
Fusion Coil Shock 1 30 seconds
Fusion Coil Shock 2 30 seconds
Fusion Coil Shock 3 30 seconds

Adjust the Respawn Timer.

Arena: 120-150
BTB: 120-180

3. Gamemodes

Some gamemode objects have missing or incorrect labelling:

Zone Capture Plate Correct labels: "Strongholds Include", "Strongholds Plate"
Zone Capture Plate 1 Correct labels: "Strongholds Include", "Strongholds Plate"
Zone Capture Plate 2 Correct labels: "Strongholds Include", "Strongholds Plate"

Add the correct labelling to the listed gamemode objects.

Some Capture Zones are too high or low in elevation from ground level so the nav marker displaying the zone letter shows up in an unexpected position from the zone capture area, which can confuse players:

Stronghold Capture Zone 3 (Stockpile Socket navpoint)
Stronghold Capture Zone 4 (Stockpile Socket navpoint)

Adjust the origin points of the listed Capture Zones to be level with the most common surface inside the boundary that a player would capture the zone from.

Image of a KOTH boundary floating off the ground

Image of a KOTH boundary level with the ground

Some Stronghold Capture Zones have the same Group Index value causing the zones to be labelled in an undefined order:

Stronghold Capture Zone 1 Group Index set to "2"
Stronghold Capture Zone 2 Group Index set to "2"

Set the Group Index values correctly for each Stronghold Capture Zone.

Eagle = 1 (A)
Middle/Neutral = 2 (B)
Cobra = 3 (C)

Some gamemode objects are too high in elevation:

Total Control Zone 7

Fix the elevation on the listed objects so they are positioned correctly on the ground.

Gamemode objects positioned at the correct height

Some gamemode objects are too low in elevation:

Zone Capture Plate
Zone Capture Plate 1
Zone Capture Plate 2
Power Socket Forerunner 11
Power Socket Forerunner 12
Power Socket Forerunner 13
Power Socket Forerunner 14
Power Socket Forerunner 15
Power Socket Forerunner 16
Power Socket Forerunner 17
Total Control Zone 1
Total Control Zone 2
Total Control Zone 3
Total Control Zone 4
Total Control Zone 5
Total Control Zone 6
Total Control Zone 8
Total Control Zone 9
Total Control Zone 10
Total Control Zone 12
Total Control Zone 13
Total Control Zone 14
Total Control Zone 15

Fix the elevation on the listed objects so they are positioned correctly on the ground.

4. Nav Mesh

The Nav Mesh on the map doesn't reflect the current geometry of the map.

Rebuild Nav Mesh.

No Bot Nav Markers set up for exploration purposes so Bots will just run around in select locations of the map in a janky fashion if there are no ambitions like sandbox item spawns, gamemode objectives or enemy players nearby that interest them.

Add Bot Nav Markers on the map to make Bots traverse between them if nothing else interests them.

Place Bot Nav Markers in highlight areas of your map, set their Behavior to "Explore" and connect them together by adding other Bot Nav Markers as Neighbors to each Bot Nav Marker.
It's a good idea to name each Bot Nav Marker uniquely so it's easier to distinguish them when choosing Neighbors.

Some lifts or launchers do not have pathfinding support for Bots to use them:

Kinetic Launcher Forerunner
Kinetic Launcher Forerunner 1

Add a Bot Movement One Way Nav helper connecting the entry point of the lift/launcher to the intended landing spot. Rebuild Nav Mesh afterwards.

The Length-value of the Nav helper should be set to "1.00" and positioned width-wise in the middle of the lift/launcher path so that Bots will use it accurately from the middle.

A Bot Movement One Way Nav helper setup correctly for Bots to be able to use a launcher

A Bot Movement One Way Nav helper setup correctly for Bots to be able to use a lift

Some Nav Seed Points are redundant on the map as the Nav data already connects to all required areas without them or the Nav Seed Point is not affecting the pathfinding in a useful way in its current position:

Nav Seed Point
Nav Seed Point 1
Nav Seed Point 2

Remove the excess Nav Seed Points to gain back object budget.

Spawn Points serve the same purpose as Nav Seed Points in that they spread the Nav Mesh from their origin position.
Read the TSG Forge Wiki article about this topic

5. Lighting

No issues found!

6. Misc. setup

There are some areas with missing Named Location Volumes:

Position: -209, 93, 687
Position: -290, 36, 662
Position: -340, 98, 671
Position: 79, -204, 652

Cover up the listed areas with Named Location Volumes.

The Audio obstruction data on the map doesn't reflect the current geometry of the map.

Rebuild Audio.

Hide excess objects outside the playspace like skybox object during the generation of the Audio to reduce the complexity and Audio data file size.

Some Map Intro Cameras have incorrect settings, resulting in unideal behavior:

Map Intro Camera Camera Blend set to "Custom" instead of "Start"

Adjust the settings of the listed Map Intro Cameras to follow set standards.

Starting Camera = Sequence Order: Lower than the ending Camera, Camera Blend: "Start".
Ending Camera = Sequence Order: Higher than the starting Camera, Camera Blend: "End".

Some Camera objects are redundant or are causing conflicting issues:

Map Intro Camera 4 & Map Intro Camera 6 Same Sequence Order
Map Intro Camera 5 & Map Intro Camera 7 Same Sequence Order

Remove the excess Camera objects to gain back object budget or adjust the existing settings.

Some areas have unusual audio:

Audio Emitter 6 Weird wind audio

Adjust the listed Audio Emitters.

The player can Mark outside the playable area to reveal locations with no name.

A good idea is to add a Named Location Volume covering a large portion of the map with some generic name like "Outside" so when a player Marks outside of the playable area, it will still have some generic name instead of showing no name.

Smaller volumes will take priority if they are located inside a larger volume so this won't affect the Named Location Volumes inside your playspace.